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Ask a Bad Boy: Why Do Taken Men Still Flirt With Single Women?

Mon, 12/01/2008 - 9:00am by DearSugar
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Steve Santagati, of BadBoysFinishFirst.com and author of the best-selling book The Manual, answers your burning questions when it comes to dating, love, and how men think. He's a veteran at giving street-smart, straight-to-the-point advice, so ladies, tell me, what do you want to ask Steve about men? This is your chance to get answers so don't hold back! Submit your questions here.

Dear Steve,

I can't tell you how many times I've been out some place — like a bar or a restaurant — and I'll find out the guy that's been flirting with me and my girls is either married or in a relationship, what's up with that? Why do they even bother if they can't "swing through the ball" — so to speak? I feel like I need to preface every conversation I have with a man with "wait, do you have a girlfriend?" — Perplexed Penelope

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Dear Perplexed Penelope,

This question makes me laugh. The longer I live, the more I realize how similar men and women truly are. Boys and Girls may go about things differently and often appear to speak different languages, but in the end, we have more similarities in what we like and don't like than differences. After all, we're both human and us "beings" are almost identical. That's super good news — if you're paying attention. Moreover, women are the founding fathers — errr mothers — of the "tease" and isn't a man flirting — yet unavailable — just being a tease? You know, like when a girl walks into a bar flaunting major cleavage, a super short skirt, and playing with her hair yet doesn't have the slightest intention of having sex with any of us. Isn't Flirt Boy just doing what women have done for hundreds of years?

Teasing is one of the things men and women differ in; men can tease you by pulling your hair, but women tease on a much more visceral level, right down to the loins. Men don't tease. If we weren't so horny all the time maybe we would, but we are so we can't. Teasing implies we could actually "hold out" if you showed us you wanted to have sex. Very few of us can.

The Male Facts when it comes to flirting while in a relationship:

  1. We do it because we enjoy the art of flirting
  2. We do it because we're smart and know you have to keep the engine warm in case things fall apart with the current flame.
  3. It's an ego boost when women respond
  4. It helps us have a reality check to make sure "we still got it".
  5. It's naughty and mischievous (obsessions any man, worth his salt, will not lose with age). It's like playing with fire because we know we have to be loyal, but it allows us to fantasize with the "what if".

The Female Solution:

  1. Don't just talk to a man because you want a man. That's too cut and dry. Talk to him because you want to enjoy the person, enjoy the opposite sex, learn something that you can utilize when the right one comes along — Stop boyfriend/husband hunting.
  2. See how far you can push Mr. Committed into crossing the line. It's not nice but you'll learn a lot about how good your game is and you'll be one step closer to understanding why bad girls finish first!
  3. Enjoy the fact that you can do something us guys can't; tease. Teasing is one of those things that can define a woman; but just the right amount of sexy, too much and she's classless. The girls of Hooters have it down to a science.
  4. Realize it's a cruel joke that most of the people we'll find ourselves attracted to will be taken. That's life. But I said it's a "joke" and jokes are meant to be laughed at, not cause anxiety.



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  • partysugar's picture
    partysugar
    1

    Steve, thanks for the head's up! This has been happening to me a lot lately...

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • CaterpillarGirl's picture
    CaterpillarGirl
    2

    I agree steve, I see women doing this, married women, more than married men.

    I flirt still, and I am married. Its human nature.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • geebers's picture
    geebers
    4

    Yeah I see married men AND women flirting. I don't see a big deal with it- it is not cheating and frankly anything these days can ben flirting. I am very perky and friendly- and many guys assume I like them when I am just being nice and talking to them as I would any other girl.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • indielove's picture
    indielove
    5

    Haha, great post Steve. Laughing out loud

    I basically think flirting is harmless, but only if you don't take it to an intensely personal level where you actually get involved with someone who is in a relationship. Steve's right, few men can tease...women do it so well. People get a thrill out of flirting, it's fun, I do admit.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • krae85's picture
    krae85
    6

    this answer is all wrong. A woman who may dress seductively but chooses not to go home with any of the guys at the bar is not equal to a married man flirting with single women. The woman has a right to decide if she spends the evening alone or with someone else but the married man already made the decision (when he married her) to go home to his wife, he has no right to be flirting. get real, steve.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • GScott86's picture
    GScott86
    7

    Why do taken women still flirt with single me?

    Laughing out loud (yes I'm a smartass).

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • aka Daria's picture
    aka Daria
    9

    Steve, I love you Laughing out loud
    love your posts. You and I see eye to eye...and I am a woman.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • GScott86's picture
    GScott86
    10

    The male solution can be applied to both men and women, but I don't totally buy that they are the ultimate reasons why some men may do it, it may be a few reasons why some do. I don't buy that it applies only to taken men per se, but to all use human being.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • Nitachequita's picture
    Nitachequita
    11

    I'm with Krae85. How a woman chooses to dress when going out is entirely different from choosing to directly flirt and chat with someone, which is more misleading. Dressing sexy is not being a tease.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • Spiderlove's picture
    Spiderlove
    12

    Anything that "The girls at Hooters" have "down to a science" is not something I want to be a part of... sorry, just my opinion.

    And, am I misunderstanding this? (seriously, I hope I am...)Is Steve suggesting that women "see how far they can get with Mr Committed"?

    That's SO wrong.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • aka Daria's picture
    aka Daria
    13

    Some women do like seeing how far they can get with teasing someone who has someone already.

    I've seen it, I've done it, the world continues to turn.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • skigurl's picture
    skigurl
    15

    this is coming from the single girl who is being hit on...but what about the girlfriend sitting at home?

    i know all the reasons guys do it, but i don't want to be that girlfriend (i've been her in the past, but never again!) i appreciate the fact that i can trust my boyfriend not to flirt with girls in a bar. because like steve said, most guys don't have the ability to stop their "flirting" there when the sentiment is returned!

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • Sweetytart's picture
    Sweetytart
    16

    i'm sorry but this article really pisses me off. I agree with krae85 on this one. See how far you can get a married man to go? Are you kidding me? WOW. Very nice.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • pixelhaze's picture
    pixelhaze
    17

    haha one time a friend and I were in Vegas an these two guys got us bottle service. I was talking to one of the guys and he whips out his iphone to show me a pic of his wife!! lol I thought it was hilarious, I mean I wasn't even into the guy (it's Vegas!) but if he was trying to get somewhere he had the worst game ever, who the heck does that?!

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • bransugar79's picture
    bransugar79
    19

    I'm married to a very sweet man who does not flirt with other women because he loves me and isn't interested. I don't find that dull at all. I think that people can be cordial and friendly with the opposite sex when in a relationship but clearly that isn't what this post is about. Suggesting that teasing and flirting with the intent to see how far it can go is a skill single and married people alike should practice is absurd. Being in a committed relationship should guarantee your partner some level of respect and security. And why would any woman want to be with a man who leaves the engine running so to speak. Are men so unable to be alone that they have to have a back up at all times just in case things don't work out? I'm also not sure why anyone would play a game like this. If you have any respect for yourself you wouldn't even want to see how far you can get with a married man because the idea that he is married and promised to someone else would make you feel less than what you are worth in your own eyes. I personally think it's insulting when married men flirt with me or anyone who isn't their wife. Even if you don't care about the person left at home you should have more self respect than to need that kind of attention.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • FactCheckinCuz's picture
    FactCheckinCuz
    20

    i'm in a great relationship and still love flirting with other guys. i do it for all the same the guys do! of course, i'm not going to take it overboard and keep it to chit-chat only.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • indielove's picture
    indielove
    21

    It's all about knowing your boundaries. There are people who can't help but flirt. I have a good friend who is married, he flirts with me and other women too, but he is insanely committed to his wife. I highly doubt that he would ever cheat on her(and if he did, it wouldn't be with me). You have to think of your SO and it's about being respectful to them. I've know people who are so jealous that their SO cannot even look in the direction of the opposite sex or else they'll have their heads chewed off.

    Really, it all comes down to how you define 'flirting'. If there are no intentions behind it, then why make a huge stink about it? I think it'll just drive the other person away.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • meringue's picture
    meringue
    22

    Some women do like seeing how far they can get with teasing someone who has someone already.

    I've seen it, I've done it, the world continues to turn.

    --Sorry Daria, this comment makes me ill

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • aka Daria's picture
    aka Daria
    23

    that's your opinion, i have mine.
    the world, again, continues to turn.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • GScott86's picture
    GScott86
    24

    Not that I'm saying it's right, but if you're going to flirt, keep away from establishing emotional attachment, don't let it get far as in you're making out 2 seconds later, and certainly don't go home bragging about flirting. I'm sure we're all guilty of flirting, but the reasons laid out in this article is debatable. I've been guilty of doing it because of a small level of infatuation. I don't plan on going down that road again, considering my love's the most beautiful and wonderful woman in the world to me, so I plan on respecting her in the least, especially where this is concerned. I don't think "seeing how far things can go" is right when someone who's in a relationship is concerned. If you're both single, by all means, move on to 3rd or home base, go for 9 innings or over time, your choice.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • Hiding55's picture
    Hiding55
    25

    I love to flirt and my boy friend loves to flirt too. We just both love talking to new people and flirting just seems to happen. Luckily we're both secure enough in ourselves and each other that it's not a problem. I can see how people would have problems with flirting if jealousy was involved. Flirting is not cheating. It it all comes down to trust.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • aka Daria's picture
    aka Daria
    26

    oh, and i've never slept with a married man fyi, seeing as I'm 21 and I don't know many married people.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • Hiding55's picture
    Hiding55
    28

    I do tend to think more like a guy most of the time and most of the time agree with Steve and even if you don't like it he is giving you a pretty good look inside the mind of a man. He's just being honest so take it or leave it. Don't hate on the guy.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • rellicDragon's picture
    rellicDragon
    29

    lol I love this post ... has happened to me a couple of times ... but I hope I find a man who is confident enough in the relationship to understand harmless flirting ... as it is always an ego boost for both men n women ...

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • bellasugar's picture
    bellasugar
    30

    I have a simpler answer: Taken dudes who flirt inappropriately are d-bags. Easy as that! (I'm not talking about light flirting; I'm talking about the dudes who spend a lot of time e-mailing you, buying you drinks, etc. while his lady is not looking.)

    Seriously, ladies, if a married/taken man is putting the moves on you, he is a grade-A assclown. Why bother figuring out why he's a grade-A assclown? Doesn't change the fact that he's an assclown. Stop wasting your mental energy.

    I'm tired of the "boys will be boys" mentality continually being used to excuse crappy character and boorish behavior. Also? I don't strive to emulate the women of Hooters. I'll always find someone like Lauren Bacall or Kathleen Hanna — smart, confident, independent — sexier than jiggling flesh displays. The right man will, too.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • SLB's picture
    SLB
    31

    As a guy I agree their is nothing wrong with casual lite flirting from someone in a relationship. It is nice to get a little boost from it. However, if either one of you do that too much then you might be missing something in your relationship. Assclown is a awesome phrase; can't wait to use it.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • indielove's picture
    indielove
    32

    "I don't strive to emulate the women of Hooters."

    Yeah, I didn't like that part in his response either. Those girls just look tacky. Slutting it up doesn't automatically = sexy.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • jessie's picture
    jessie
    34

    interesting answer steve and interesting on how the ladies think here. Smiling it all depends on the individual and the couple itself on the flirting issue. some couples are fine with it...others aren't.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • oohsexypenguin's picture
    oohsexypenguin
    35

    I think the whole flirting issue is something that should be handled according to each couples' wants and boundaries. My fiance and I are not ok with flirting outside the relationship, but that's our decision and what works for us. If another couple is perfectly fine with it (and they don't take it so far as to cheat), then that's what is right for them. Who am I to judge?

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • CaterpillarGirl's picture
    CaterpillarGirl
    36

    Bella my sister works at hooters and she has 5 degrees. dont judge a book, or in this case, a woman by her short shorts.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • looseseal's picture
    looseseal
    37

    Go, Bellasugar! My sentiments exactly.

    To quote Michael Scott from The Office:
    "Ryan has never made a sale. And he started a fire trying to make a cheesy pita. And everybody thinks he's a tease. Well you know what? He doesn't know anything, and neither do you. So suck on that!"

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • bellasugar's picture
    bellasugar
    38

    CaterpillarGirl, I hear what you're saying. I have no doubt that a lot of women who work at Hooters are bright, hard-working, and well-educated. I'm not judging their choice of employment, just saying that the Hooters aesthetic doesn't do it for me personally.

    5 weeks 2 days ago Report Comment
  • myystque's picture
    myystque
    39

    I agree with bella!

    And I really have an issue with the suggestion that women--once they find out a man is already taken--should push to see how far he will go. That's just trashy and you won't learn anything about "your game" because the guy is probably a jerk who'd hit on anything with a p****, and who cares about getting the attention of a man like that? Be a real woman and find out how good your game is by flirting with an available man (or men).

    5 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • krae85's picture
    krae85
    40

    CG that's ridiculous and untrue and thus, unhelpful. Any point you're trying to make is undone by the extremism of your example. there's nothing wrong with working at hooter's but god help us if that's what we should aspire to be as women.

    5 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment
  • Meike's picture
    Meike
    41

    [3. It's an ego boost when women respond
    4. It helps us have a reality check to make sure "we still got it".]

    Right, right, a man's wife doesn't pay him enough attention and affection. So, he needs the validation of other women to get his ego boost fix. Gotcha. Insecure much?

    [2. We do it because we're smart and know you have to keep the engine warm in case things fall apart with the current flame.]

    That would make for not a loyal enough man when he refers to his wife as a current flame with room for others. Idealistically, married people want their flame to be everlasting.

    [It's naughty and mischievous (obsessions any man, worth his salt, will not lose with age). It's like playing with fire because we know we have to be loyal, but it allows us to fantasize with the "what if".]

    You know what else is naughty and mischievous. Sex with your wife in the car, on the beach, in the park, behind an alley way, with toys, in all different sorts of positions, etc. My husband plays with fire...with me. We're not dull by all means just because we both have no desire to flirt with others.

    5 weeks 1 day ago Report Comment